Curse

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 25, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12

There Are Picturs on Gw.com of The Rift Ghostly heros talk about and htis is where all the dark forces come from

Avarre · Sep 25, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14

The Rift is the hub of the multiverse, it's more likely dark forces come from another plane, through the Rift as it's a point of access to all other planes.

Rallick · Sep 25, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

Avarre, I just think you overly simplifying it all. Remember, charr did not only worship titans (which are fiery only in one form) but also the mursat (you can see stick effigies representing them on the charr controlled lands)

I find it a bit strange, as these two ware opposing factions, but it does suggest that they both are connected to charr history. And I doubt its as simple as “saw beings of fire, and worshipped them”.

Also do not forget the searing, this wasn’t your typical charr magic, and I would like to have some explanation about what exactly did charr summon that day (there is something disturbing about these crystals), it might even be connected to the outcast got, but I doubt that.

arcanemacabre · Sep 25, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25

I'm still wondering where the Enchanted Armors from the Crystal Desert and the Mursaat constructs fit into all this... as in why are they so similar in appearence?

The Enchanted Armors are likely constructs of the Forgotten, and if there is any link, this would mean the Forgotten and the Mursaat are linked somehow, at least by a form of magic that can animate piles of rocks/armor.

A stretch, but what if they are all aspects of Glint? (the Mursaat and Forgotten)

Avarre · Sep 25, 2006, 11:28 AM // 11:28

Since the armor pieces that make up the Enchanted are virtually identical to Mursaat armor, I'm more partial to the theory that the Mursaat tried to find Glint, or a bloodstone, in the desert and simply didn't make it (or they were eradicated)... and the Forgotten animated the armor into the Enchanted.

Neriandal Freit · Sep 25, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I've pondered that vaguely my self Avarre, for there are simliarties (misspell) which would be possible.

The only thing I dont like is how we aren't getting any other lore on a more regular basis...

Giga Strike · Sep 25, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05

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Originally Posted by Avarre

The door is powered by souls sacrificed to the keystone. It is not the door itself.

the door is powered by soul batteries that are charged whenever the chosen are sacrificed on any bloodstone.

but anyway, abaddon's mouth is the largest volcano in tyria, we know that, but you failed to mention that it was also the very volcano that the gods threw the bloodstones into to stop the races from destroying each other for power. over time there was a massive eruption, possibly caused by abaddon, which sent the bloodstones across tyria.

there are 4 bloodstones and the keystone, the keystone's location is unknown. but bloodstones have been found in the maguma jungle, the southern shiverpeaks, and at the base of the volcano. we can assume that one of the remaining pieces reaced elona and abaddon's followers plan on using it to free abaddon from his prison.

Karlos · Sep 25, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12

I just want to note that we don't really know that Abaddon's Mouth is actually, you know, Abaddon's mouth... For all we know it could be the wrong side of Abaddon we're looking at.

Solar_Takfar · Sep 25, 2006, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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Originally Posted by Karlos

I just want to note that we don't really know that Abaddon's Mouth is actually, you know, Abaddon's mouth... For all we know it could be the wrong side of Abaddon we're looking at.

lolalot....

Anyway. I'm kinda lost with all this stuff. Is there a timeline where GW events are registered? because afaik Prophs and Factions happen simultaneously (since your character can hop from one continent to the other and catch the events whiel they happen), so I'm thinking the same will apply to nightfall... will it?

Giga Strike · Sep 25, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42

because the zaishen commander is the same one that you would find if you went to the zaishen elite area with any character and because jatoro musagi seems to be the same age as in factions we can assume that it will take place around the same time as prophecies and facitions. also that sunspear chick said that she was getting help from tyria and cantha so we can expect to see devona, cynn, mehnlo, aidan, eve, talon, panaku, argo, danika, proffesor gai......once we get to the main land.

Karlos · Sep 25, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Yup, and everything is tied to the magic number... 200 years ago.

Omega X · Sep 25, 2006, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Or, more likely, it was called that because Abaddon's mouth would translate to the mouth of ruin. Abaddon as a name in chapter three likely wasn't conceptualized at that time.

If you are not a developer, you have no real way of knowing what you just typed.

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Yes it has. It's a volcano. You jump in it, and you end up in the Underworld. This is not a complex issue.

Nobody said it was a portal letting you get there alive!

If that was the case, the lore wouldn't describe a portal to the underworld. IT would say a certain death to those who enter instead of:

"Abaddon's Mouth is rumored to be the gateway into the Underworld. But only demons and devils would dare enter the fiery chasm. All other risk being burned to cinders before even getting to magma's edge."

Especially when you had someone like Lord Odran opening portals into the mists and then hiding them "by powerful wards and enchantments".

Giga Strike · Sep 25, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24

so...what ur trying to say is...lord obran put a portal to the mists inside abaddon's mouth?

Eldred · Sep 25, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

LOL i checked the seer and kinda looks like margonite and about charr kinda weird that the searing they used shoot crystals that looked same as in glints cave

Giga Strike · Sep 25, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

so...ur saying that...glint gave the charr the power to start the searing?

R_A_M_Z_A · Sep 25, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

I think the charr attack crystals that were left over are from some sort of attack they used...
Something elemental

You know... like how Ice Shards leaves them laying around...

Omega X · Sep 25, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by Giga Strike

so...what ur trying to say is...lord obran put a portal to the mists inside abaddon's mouth?

SO what you're saying is that you can actually comprehend?! Oh joyous day!

Anyway, what I'm saying that there is no bonafide proof that a portal does or does not exist there other than the description of the area.

Age · Sep 25, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13

This is mentioned in the first chapter book about the old gods going to the be locked in the RoF.I would suggest reading the first chapters manuscripts.

=HT=Ingram · Sep 25, 2006, 10:26 PM // 22:26

lol maybe its just Typical Tyrian Slang. you know" a bad en tis gonna git ya..."

abaddon lol get it. add a red neck drall and you get what I'm saying...

ahh nvm. I thought it was funny...

Clawdius_Talonious · Sep 25, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40

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Originally Posted by avarre

Or, more likely, it was called that because Abaddon's mouth would translate to the mouth of ruin. Abaddon as a name in chapter three likely wasn't conceptualized at that time.

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Originally Posted by Omega X

If you are not a developer, you have no real way of knowing what you just typed.

Actually since they've stated (in the PC gamer preview) that Jeff Grub expanded the Nightfall storyline to close the prior two chapters based on small snippets of GW lore, he's probably closer to the truth than you may realize.